Posts by yahgiggle

Quote from Miwarre

1) "/selectarea" is definitely a different command than the other two, as event.getCommand().split(" ")[0].equals("/select") will not match it; the other two might end up behaving differently or not according to the way each treats further words after the first.
2) Are we sure that only one instance of the area selecting tool would be created or there will be several?

3) Even if they share the same area selecting tool, once the selection completed, each will carry on its own processing of that area; not necessarily what the user may want...

This is similar to the problem with Java package names (which should ideally be unique world-wide) or with GUID (which are by definition "Globally Unique"). In both cases, some heuristics has been found to manage the problem. It should be much easier in a much more limited domain, like RW chat commands. I am not sure that picking the first string coming to mind and not yet used by another plug-in is such a heuristics...

several instance's of the selection tool running at once oO i don't think it works like that, but ill ask red51 as thats a good point,
, saying picking the first string coming to mind is a little rude Miwarre its almost saying i was lazy lol but the tru fact is the frist thing i picked was /bp
but after all the problems with world edit and users typing the wrong thing like / weplace block /weplace block etc i decided adding /bp to the mix would case more problems than it solves.

Quote from Jon_miner

I thought the command for BP plugin is "/select area" (with a space). While the one for AP is "/selectarea" (no space). Shouldn't the only plugin responding be the BP plugin?

the command /select or /selectarea or /select area is used by more than one script, portals is another one too, IDK what command he used to bring up the selection tool, but what i do know is the command /delete con will output a message in chat if the BP plugin is installed, if no massage then i guess something has gone wrong or the script has not even been installed.

Quote from Jon_miner

This is feasible even down the road when there are maybe 100's of plugins? If I were coding, I would rather just use something that I'd be pretty sure is unique, but that's me.

maybe if someone else use's the same commands as i do, and you happen to install there plugin, and then get conflicts, you should let that other coder know that they need to change there script commands because those commands had been taken by the block placer plugin first. lol

Quote from Miwarre

I am not so sure: each plug-in listening for player chat commands is notified when a chat command is issued. And each plug-in will (presumably) check if it is a command it is interested in.
So, each plug-in recognising a "/select" command will do whatever that command means to it.

yes and is why i said two things will happen, but in the case of /select /selectarea /select area they all do the same thing, they bring up the area selecting tool oO

Quote from Jon_miner

Hmmm. So only one of the plugins will respond to the /select command? Which one? What I'm getting at is if someone else does a plugin using the /select command. It seems that coders should pick "non-generic" commands to avoid conflict.

conflicts are always a real thing that could happen, but saying coders should pick "non-generic" commands to avoid conflict, is not right, you should be saying
coders should check there commands to avoid conflict, i checked and the commands had not been used so i used them, this was to keep the script as simple to use as possible.

Quote from WalterDasTrevas

I'm going to record a video, that way you can point out what I'm doing wrong.

hi

first /selectarea is also part of the protection script so even if you don't have block placer installed you can still select an area
oO but by how there is no feedback when you enter into the chat /delete my guess is you have not added the block placer plugin to your plugins folder, because even if it did not delete your beams you should have got error something went wrong or all construction removed, messages in chat

whats your server name i can come and take a look but your also need to add me as a admin for me to test it out

Quote from Jon_miner

I still see this as an potential issue. If two plugins/scripts are both using say /selectarea and then only one of them gets a command to use the area selected (like /delete con), the other plugin/script is left hanging waiting for what to do with the selected area. Not sure then what would happen if you do another /selectarea and do like a /createarea, would possibly the AP script use the originally selected area and now the BP plugin is left hanging... etc.
Seems like it would be very important to use definitively distinct commands. If something like "/bp select, etc." is difficult, would using something like "/bpselect (no space)" be easier?

plugins don't get left hanging they are much like a book, they read down every page till they hit what they are looking for so in aother words when you type /select the program will search all the scripts till it finds /select and then run that line of code then stop till the next command has been asked say
/delete con

Quote from Minotorious

Thank you for the update and good to hear we finally have a fully functional worldedit plugin A small suggestion, would you consider adding a small prefix to your commands like /bp or /blockplacer just in case commands like /select or /place are used by other plugins scripts? (see text below)

when making the script i had the idea of adding /bp to every command because the prefix i used may conflict with other plugins later on but then im like well adding /pb to every command is going to cause more problems than it solves, for every extra /pb line i add i would need to code in error reporting oO this makes no sense, i tend to think that i was the first to use the prefix 's so if anyone wrights a new script they need to come up with there own prefix 's that don't conflict with my script.

/selectarea or /select or /select area <---- are somewhat used by other things but they all do the same thing it would not matter if the code for select read from the protection script was then used to /delete con or what ever, you can even use a blueprint in your hand to select the area and then use the chat to use /delete con

Just tested /delete con <-------- for woodbeams and it removed them, so it works @WalterDasTrevas

Quote from WalterDasTrevas

Thanks for suggesting, but I had done this in previous attempts, I selected the full beam, I even selected an extra block down, up and to the sides.

ok i tested planks and they worked fine but did not test beams oO lol beams and planks are the same thing both should be deleted with /delete con

i will look into this but maybe there is a api bug or a bug in my code you could also try /delete abs

Quote from Bogus

Hi there ;D

I have a little problem, the plugin is in the plugin folder, but was not loaded from the game. What I make wrong ?

is the folder named plugin or plugins because it should be plugins not plugin you need that S, also each plugin must be in its own folder oO then reset your server to load it.

Just a bump to let everyone know /delete (blocks, land, obj, veg, con, or abs ) now works, you don't need to update your script as i had done the code before the api was updated

Nice going Red51

Quote from Minotorious

eitherway when the new AP plugin comes out I would think that the creator could write a small extra script to convert the old db file to the new format for the plugin. Shouldn't be that hard to write an extra script that would read the old db file and output it in the new format.

They both can use the same old DB file so its a matter of just copy your old DB to your new Java protection folder location, thats if the new protection use's the same table names, if new tables are added, that can be done very simple with one simple line of code.

Quote from Jon_miner

A different "protection" subject...

I was told that there is a way to limit the use of blueprints by players to just areas they are "Owner". Is this true? How is this done? Currently it appears that any player can place blueprints anywhere.

with the old lua, you could do this, but i don't know about the new java yet, but in lua its just a matter of if the user does not own the area and has a blueprint in his selection box then you could cancel the command or even boot/teleport the user out of the area

Quote from WalterDasTrevas

Greetings!
I'd like to know how I can delete 200 beams at once.
Does this plugin work the same way as WorldEdit?
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Edited: Unfortunately it is not possible to delete planks and beams with the latest version.

That way, I take 01:30 to delete a single decorative item.

In my opinion, deleting planks, beams, and logs is WorldEdit's best function.
Is there forecast to add planks, beams, and logs in the plugin?

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ATM the new API does not have the code to make this work, we are still waiting for API updates oO

Yes the main reason why there has been a stop on the coding of new stuff in the new API is that the API is currently missing some parts necessary for us to finish stuff, once we have those parts added, we can finish what we started oO including a new area protection

Quote from Minotorious

exactly our thought, the thing is we had a chest like that in a server but noone remembers how it was done and everyone could take out of it....maybe we just somehow bugged the script or something XD

ok your be happy to know i have started this new plugin, but have hit a road block oO the new API is missing something i need for this to work, lua has it but i don't want to do this code in lua as lua will be removed soon and replaced by java, ive messaged red51 letting him know what i need so now its going to be a waiting game oO

Quote from Groovaholic

Hello all Iv started to get this error with the portals script " java.net.SocketException:Connection reset" I'm sure this as just started to happen with the new build of rising World 0.8.0.3, but the strange thing is if I go into a single player world everything is fine but if I exit the game after the java error my actual computer connection is off for about 15-30 minutes???.
Ive tried running without my firewall/antivirus on to make sure this is not causing the problem but still getting the same java error.

the old lua api is no longer supported, i think there is a new portal script in the new API area maybe have a look there and install that one, your going to have to at some point anyway as lua is getting fully removed

Quote from Minotorious

@yahgiggle no no what @Jon_miner said is exactly what we want to do and were wondering how to do it. To explain it a bit more:

1) we have set up a world permission group called "visitor" for new players
2) we want all visitors to be able to take things out of a chest which is inside a protected area (without us having to add them to it as they come online)
3) we don't want visitors to be able to destroy the chests or otherwise damage the area

This had been done in another server but noone remembers how it was done.

ok i in fact have a the code to do this ill make it better and post it soon for the new API ill make it my mission for tonight

so lets get this right

here is what i have

1 Any Chest placed becomes owned by a user and no matter where in the world they place it no one else but Admins can smach it but others can take things and put things back into it

now for added ideas

2 have the owner be able to lock the chest with a pin code
3 have the owner be able to pass owner rights of a chest to other non admin users
4 have some items in the chest locked and others unlocked (the new api might not do this yet)
5 have the chest turn into a type of swap chest, like you can only take planks if you have gold on you as a payment (this also may not work with the new API yet)

if you have other ideas post them down below