Regarding shutdown and say commands

I'd like to reopen a old topic because I'm not fully understanding, sorry.

Quote from red51

Yes, that would work. You can either create a plugin which sends the messages and shuts the server down, or alternatively you can just send input commands to the server process (e.g. "shutdown" to shutdown the server, or "say" or "yell" to send a message to all players). In case you create a script to handle the restart, the input commands may be handier (so there is no need to use the plugin API at all)

Firstly, I am not at all concerned about the restarting the server. I have a solution for relaunching after a shutdown.
Secondly, I know this can be done with API.
and lastly, yes I know this can be done manually, but I'm asking for purposes of automation, without using the API.

So, my question is only about rcon and ways to communicate those commands.

Specifically this part:
In case you create a script to handle the restart, the input commands may be handier (so there is no need to use the plugin API at all) :)

So far I can successfully connect via http webrequest on rcon port but I don't know if there are any commands I can send via a hyperlink?

Example of what I tried http://localhost:rconport/run?command=shutdown

Alternatively there is the 'rcon.exe application, do these executable rcon applications support any input paramers?

Example of what I tried start rcon.exe -shutdown

If there is a way to script commands directly to the server console that works too!

@red51 sorry to tag you. I've asked many people, but this information has been hard for me to verify, could you elaborate on which methods work or don't please and thanks

Thanks @Devidian for your reply. Sounds like your using API plugin to control the shutdowns.

As I stated I would prefer to not use the API for simple rcon commands like say and shutdown.

However, this does appear to be candidate if I do go the API route, so thanks again.

I still very much would like to know about which other methods might work for sending these commands

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Question = Is it possible to interact with rcon via Http? Via CLI?

Thanks lenko, I am aware of these facts. In fact I've been waiting to find answers to my inquiry for 11 months. Yes, 11 months ago I wrote my reboots script. And released it on github for the community. I've since made it private (for further development). At the time I was actively inquiring this same issue. And I would still really like to know if there are ways to interact with the rcon to complete the cycle, without using any API plugin. I don't think I want my reboots hardcoded into the game. I prefer to be able to run them on demand with let's say Task Scheduler. I don't know if it's a language issue, god knows my language skills are garbage. But the answers have left me with uncertainty? Which is why I've finally asked for developer response. I hope it is not too much to ask.

Simply put, is there ANY way to script rcon commands that doesn't require API?

Ahah a redirect to stdin! Brilliant!

Sorry I am a total amateur.. I have recently been learning about the standard in, standard out, and standard error, so I think I have an idea of what you're saying. I will play with that and see how it goes. Thanks everyone, especially red51