shouldn't area permission change your permssion group

So I am having an issue with my Area permissions. Seems the owners are not getting their permissions changed when they enter into their area and cannot add players to their area.

They cannot add players I am sure it is simple any help would be appreciated.

Quote from james1bow

are you using the built in ap?

I am using the built in Area protection. And assign them. I had problems with one of the AP plugins . I will likely build a plugin to allow people to self claim set boxes but that is in the future.

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its not doable without a plugin. the player needs rights for the commands to be set in the players group permissions. they can only set them from outside the area as you have to look at the area to have the functions to set area permissions meaning they have to be outside of their area.

Well that is a shame maybe it was why one guy kept saying /wp does not work. LOL I dont have a /WP likely some other plugin. I guess I will have to write yet another plugin to do it for them. Hmmm that means I need to have different level area player permissions for them to select. Poor players.

I wonder if you gave an owner player a small area just outside their main area and gave them rights in that area whether they could look at their main area and invoke the command F9 wheel?

Quote from red51

Not sure if I understood the problem exactly Does that mean you want an owner (more precisely, a player that is assigned to an area) to be able to add other players to his area?

Right now there is only the general "areatools" permission (under "creative") and the "addplayer"/"removeplayer" permissions under "area". The problem is that allowing the area tools, the player is able to create new areas... probably it would help if there is just another "create" permission under "area"? Or a specific permission to only allow the player to edit his own areas? Or did I miss something?

Basically there is no such thing... the player has a general permission group, and once he enters an area, he also gets an area permission assigned. This is only valid as long as the player is inside this area. The general group permission can be retrieved via player.getPermissionGroup(), while the temporary area permission (only active while the player is inside an area) can be retrieved with player.getActiveAreaPermission().

As mentioned, the area permission is temporary and depends on whether or not the player is actually inside an area (and it may be different for each area). The method you've mentioned wouldn't be possible, since it's unclear which area this actually affects. If you want to change the player permission of an area, you have to set that on the particular area directly via area.setPlayerPermission(). Like this:

Java

//Get area the player is currently inside
Area area = player.getCurrentArea();

//Check if player is actually inside an area (ie area is not null)
if (area != null) {
    //Update area permission if desired
    area.setPlayerPermission(player, "PlayerAreaPermission");
}

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What was being asked is for players that are set as area owners the ability to allow or deny players into their area and to give them rights to add players to their area. I would assume that a group for area player rights versus area owners rights would need to be there.

Apparently making an area owner does not give them any new rights. They are not displayed on the permissions or the player list with supposedly area rights. Other players are able to destroy their buidings if they have general rights to build on the server is what I am reading here.

Quote from james1bow

the permissions in the groups folder are you basic permissions(what a player can do in the unprotected world).

then you have area permissions that are assigned to a player(Owner). areas also have a default permission witch is active in an area that any player does not own. since your default permission is to restrict non owners you want to block pretty much every thing in this permission. once an area is created you must set the default permissions and add an owner.

there is a hierarchy to the permissions as well.

if a player is not in an area it uses group permissions

if a player is in an area they do NOT own the areas default permission is used .if this is not set it uses the players group permissions witch is where i think you are having your issue as they are destroying areas. without this set they are basicly able to act as they are not even in an area.

if a player is in an area they own it uses whatever permissions group the owner is assigned to

for example. i have a cities areas permissions. when i set this are the default area players can do things like open doors but not chests.

another example. i have pvp areas. the areas default permission allows pvp but enables loose items on death. so even if a player is in a group permission that does not allow for pvp its of overridden when in the pvp area.

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What? You have to have a default for areas? Sheesh. I put different group visitor one named after the group they are when they enter. I force everyone that comes on new into visitor group. Well I guess it will all be wiped when the game is fully released. I do not have people destroying things, YET. What i noticed is the owners in their areas are still showing group permissions in <I> players list. Good thing I read this.. thanks

I tried to adjust my areas back to Owners and default and suddenly I have no permissions for area other than Area. If you can only select two permissions for an area this is bad since you would want at the very least 3 .. Owner, Area Friend , Area visitor. I would prefer at least 4

Quote from james1bow

you can have as many as you want

seems they have stopped showing up in the wheel menu

Likely a syntax error I am sure but I cant find it. This is the part of this game I hate. Permissions should be simple and easy