Update 0.2: Building Update

Also just a pet peeve difference in construction between java and the new version. When you hold a construction element, say a beam, with the grid turned off by default it sits flush with the surface you are pointing at - this is like the java version and I like it. However if you turn grid on, the beam goes through the surface you aim at, leaving approximately half the beam above and half below your cursor. This makes it really annoying to place vertical beams of the desired height when the grid is on. In the image attached, the two vertical beams are the same length. The one on the left is placed with grid on, right with grid off.

In java version, to avoid that issu with the grid, I changed the scale of the grid until my beam stopped to have some part in the ground I didn't try that in the new version yet

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Also just a pet peeve difference in construction between java and the new version. When you hold a construction element, say a beam, with the grid turned off by default it sits flush with the surface you are pointing at - this is like the java version and I like it. However if you turn grid on, the beam goes through the surface you aim at, leaving approximately half the beam above and half below your cursor. This makes it really annoying to place vertical beams of the desired height when the grid is on. In the image attached, the two vertical beams are the same length. The one on the left is placed with grid on, right with grid off.

Have you tried restarting the game to see if you still get the same thing happing? I know what you mean with the grid but its not doing it for me, but there is another way if you see that the element is into the ground more than you like if you press the right CTRL (this will lock it in place) ( you can freely move about) you can then manually move it up & down with the page up / page down keys.

Not sure if this is the correct way but it works

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Also just a pet peeve difference in construction between java and the new version. When you hold a construction element, say a beam, with the grid turned off by default it sits flush with the surface you are pointing at - this is like the java version and I like it. However if you turn grid on, the beam goes through the surface you aim at, leaving approximately half the beam above and half below your cursor. This makes it really annoying to place vertical beams of the desired height when the grid is on. In the image attached, the two vertical beams are the same length. The one on the left is placed with grid on, right with grid off.

In Java it's the same. To avoid this either use a smaller grid, as Groovaholic suggested, just make a shorter beam or simply use pgup until its above ground

Thanks for the reply red! I do see what you mean when it comes to placing directly on land to work as a foundation, as blocks work in java. However as someone who mainly builds with beams in java, the behaviour is very different. Maybe if there was a toggle or something?

In reply to above, in java with beams the behaviour is definitely not the same. In Java if you stand on a flat surface with the grid on, the object will sit flush against the nearest grid line in Z dimension. If that aligns with the floor, it will be flush (see the screenshot from the java version for proof, grid on left, no grid on right, both beams are same height above ground). In the unity this is not the case. It also has nothing to do with grid size, in the bottom image from the unity version I have demonstrated this. The left beam is with grid off, then the remainders are with grid on but with each different grid size (from max on left to min on right). As you can see, grid size has nothing to do with the positioning in the Z dimension here.

Of course you can freeze the object with ctrl and then manually position it how you want it, but that is a ton of work compared to how the java system worked, its not the best option.

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Thanks for the reply red! I do see what you mean when it comes to placing directly on land to work as a foundation, as blocks work in java. However as someone who mainly builds with beams in java, the behaviour is very different. Maybe if there was a toggle or something?

In reply to above, in java with beams the behaviour is definitely not the same. In Java if you stand on a flat surface with the grid on, the object will sit flush against the nearest grid line in Z dimension. If that aligns with the floor, it will be flush (see the screenshot from the java version for proof, grid on left, no grid on right, both beams are same height above ground). In the unity this is not the case. It also has nothing to do with grid size, in the bottom image from the unity version I have demonstrated this. The left beam is with grid off, then the remainders are with grid on but with each different grid size (from max on left to min on right). As you can see, grid size has nothing to do with the positioning in the Z dimension here.

Of course you can freeze the object with ctrl and then manually position it how you want it, but that is a ton of work compared to how the java system worked, its not the best option.

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i am pretty sure that depending on the height of the terrain the beam in java version was also sinking into the ground. But maybe you don´t speak about "beams" but "blocks"? that is different of course, i agree here.

Though its a matter of getting used to it. The unity blocks/beams are by default set to the grid in the world. The difference is that you can move it freely. So you could just place anywhere you want and along with the docking points (or just aim at a free spot between the dots to connect the beams as well) you can get a straight line without wondering about the specialities of the new building system.

Alternatively just use the grid, place the beam and then add one on top until you are at the surface and then dock beams on the sides. Its a little workaround.

After all i can understand that if someone was used to block-building its now a lot more difficult. But i ask you to have some patience and get used to the new system. To give it a fair chance. To not compare it to the building in the old version but see it as a new way to do the same. If you use the additional freedom it gives you or not is up to you.

I didn´t build with normal blocks in Java version for years and i think i was pretty PnB-secure. But now i feel like getting thrown back into first grade. Its a learning curve and it takes a while. I envy those who can adjust to the new system so fast. But i am glad they do as that way others can learn from them.

All of a sudden things are now behaving like they did in the java version, the whole construction element sits above the ground. very confused haha.

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All of a sudden things are now behaving like they did in the java version, the whole construction element sits above the ground. very confused haha.

Glad to know it's now working and like i said sometimes just restarting the game helps (don't ask me how) but it has helped me a few times in both versions.

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Glad to know it's now working and like i said sometimes just restarting the game helps (don't ask me how) but it has helped me a few times in both versions.

I mean it was working one way for 4 or 5 reboots of the game, started working differently briefly, and now back to how it is. So I have no idea what is really going on XD

I'll be taking a look at this today. Wasn't aware of the new release till I logged into Steam to play Subnautica for tomorrow. Perhaps I'll do an update video.

How to change the direction of the block pattern?

When will be added, furniture, glass, windows, doors, and when will be added a choice of maps, flat or with irregularities, with holes with water, with caves, as in the Java version, will there be any transport like boats, trains, cars?

In short,

"Its ready when its ready".

I'm amused when that saying sets trolls off. Not saying that person is, just amused in a general sense. That is however a fact for gaming. I hope we can at least get glass textures sooner than everything else listed in the above posting. I still need a proper session with Rising World though. I love what it is in the game currently.

hey red51 can you add hollow cone block ?

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hey red51 can you add hollow cone block ?

Take a tube block, activate surface tool and shape it as you need. It works