Update 0.9.2: Animal Breeding, Item Placement, better Controller Support [EN]

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Oh, does it mean it has no collision at all? I will check out what's going on with it!

Yes, no collision at all, no matter if the log is resized or not.

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That's weird Please let me know if this happens again

The old logs have reappeared, but a new one have disappered. Maybe a synchronization issue with the server ?

About the blue screen, I have not tried it out yet (I am in the train right now😉) but I am pretty sure it is a bug with the game light, because if you walk really close to blocks, you can still kinda see the block but really dark. The other reason I think it is something with the lighting, is because the colors are also messed up when I use no upscale, everything looks more Grey and brighter, like I am using different shaders lol. And the other thing is that the blue fog/world only appears when I use the recommended upscale, while with the other upscalers Or with none, the background in the pause menu becomes blue, and when you are just in the world, there is no blue anymore, but the lighting is messed up like I said... But as soon as I am home, I will try out if it is gone😉

These updates get better and better.Congrats players and devs with new update! And timing is perfect to try it out this weekend.

So if I use item placement and place earthworm on table. It will stay there wiggling and never despawn?

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So if I use item placement and place earthworm on table. It will stay there wiggling and never despawn?

Until a chicken comes by ? No, seriously i think i did read somewhere that animals can't be used for item placement. And i guess the earthworm is an animal ?

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Until a chicken comes by ? No, seriously i think i did read somewhere that animals can't be used for item placement. And i guess the earthworm is an animal ?

I just placed some. Here they are wiggly wiggling.

I had to. Love the word wiggling.

And changing their size is fun.I believe its enough testing for today for me...Time to actually play the game with these new functions. Now where do I find a pig

but the worms don´t sleep. Is it a Bug?

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And changing their size is fun

oh my god.

Really love the update, especially the animal husbandry! Looking forward to the addition of roosters and more food recipes based off of animal products.

After messing around with the update, I have some feedback and questions real quick:

Potential Bugs:

• Non-bred, domestic cows are producing milk. They haven't birthed any calves since I have been playing, but their milk supply seems endless (testing with three separate cows under same conditions).
• Domestic animals seem to attract their wild counterparts, which causes massive amounts of animals to congregate around my "animal pens". Killing them off only works temporarily, as they respawn and/or migrate back very quickly.

Current Update Feedback / Questions:

• How long do cows produce milk for? Is there a limit in how many buckets of milk they can produce in a row? Currently, the milking interval is insanely quick, with milk replenishing almost immediately after being milked the last time. It would be nice to have a cap or a slower replenish time - something for balance instead of infinite milk from a cow (bred or not).
• Having an indicator to determine if an animal trusts you enough to breed would be lovely. I've been sitting in my animal pen waiting for my sows and ewes to get pregnant, but to no avail.
• Is there a space limit required in order for animals to breed? Could be my pens are too crowded to allow for breeding.
• Are offspring colors determined by parents or do they spawn as random or default and roll their adult colors on age-up?
• Is there a specific breeding interval cooldown? I would love to have the optimal male-to-female ratio so the male can breed with all females by the time the first female can breed again.

Future Animal Husbandry Update Questions:

• Will rabbits ever count as a domesticated species?
• Will goats and sheep differ from cows in terms of type of milk or quantity produced? Or will they essentially be the same?
• Will there be a way to store milk in containers (like milk cans)? Tried using barrels and cauldrons, but it doesn't seem that they don't support the milk as a liquid.
• Will animals have different meat types or will they all drop "raw meat"?
• Will domestic wolves have a purpose?
• Will animals missing colors be added? Such as black ram / nanny / cow or white bull? Will babies have colors too (like the calves) or just the adults?
• Will there be some way to consolidate eggs in the future (like a constructable nest) to help prevent egg scattering / limit lay rate?
• Will hens eventually lay colored eggs based on their own colors (like real life) vs random rolls? Ex: white hen = white egg, black hen = brown egg, brown hen = blue egg

Thanks in advance! Very much looking forward to the next animal husbandry update

well no animal feeding, but i read that soon will be this and food spoilage too...then this will be the best game ever

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Wow! This is awesome. We've been waiting so long for item placement and now we got it. That excites me most. I have made a lot of little items to decorate with but having things in the game that we can put down AND THEN PICK BACK UP AND USE!!! is really great. (FYI: I've been playing a lot of Medieval Dynasty lately, and that's one of the features I really like. (Though the building scheme is not so great by comparison to Rising World.)

Questions about the animal breeding. Which animals are breedable at this time? I got the male and female sheep in an enclosure, so I expect to see lambs ... at some point? But also I have a pair of goats whose sex is easily discernable... but will the goat also give milk?) Maybe you said and I missed it.) However, I can't tell the horses gender at all. Will the horse models get "a makeover"? Also, I don't think there are roosters in game yet? I do have hens though and they drop PLENTY of eggs!

That they sleep now is cute. The bunnies don't sleep, they are just skittish all the time. It's too bad the animals don't run into the barn when it rains. they just sleep out in the puddles, ha.

Imagine my surprise and delight when I saw that we can also now roast ears or corn and potatoes! We can put a real meal on the table, hurray!

These were my own attempts to make woodworking tools for my boatbuilder's shop. I can add a few real tools to this now.

I did see that in a chest the thumbnails for blocks are messed up, and in the crafting menu the thumbnails for the window frames are also stretched and in chunks (messed up!).

Otherwise a wonderful, and unexpected update! Thanks, Red51.

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You can tell horse, and other domestic animals, apart in terms of gender by the models and their assigned names. When hovering over an animal, their name will show in the bottom left of your screen (under your health bar). Male horses will show as "Stallion" and females as "Horse", and other animals are also labelled similarly to tell gender apart. Also, females are flat on the underside / between back legs and males are not (rather noticeably) - this is the case for most male/female models (unless they have udders, in which case males won't have any).

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You can tell horse, and other domestic animals, apart in terms of gender by the models and their assigned names. When hovering over an animal, their name will show in the bottom left of your screen (under your health bar). Male horses will show as "Stallion" and females as "Horse", and other animals are also labelled similarly to tell gender apart. Also, females are flat on the underside / between back legs and males are not (rather noticeably) - this is the case for most male/female models (unless they have udders, in which case males won't have any).

Oh! Thanks. I did get pretty up close and personal. But I didn't know about the labels. I'll have to check that out. Could be I'm on an island of Amazon horses!

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Thanks for your feedback!

Hmm... hard to tell what's causing this... I'm looking into this issue! But if it happens, you could try to enter refreshitems to see if the missing item shows up then

While it looks like a lighting-related issue at first glance, it's actually a more fundamental problem. It's directly related to post-processing and it looks like the buffer format gets messed up for some reason... upscalers also have an impact on this (it seems that DLSS hides this issue in most cases)

But I do believe the issue is fixed now (but if it still occurs on your end, please let me know). There is still a remaining issue of a blue screen showing up for a brief moment when starting the game, but I think I've also found a fix for that.

It should stay there and wiggle forever

There is indeed a chance that wild cows produce milk, but this should mostly be the case if calves are in the same herd (without calves there is still a small chance)

This seems to be a more general issue for some time now... I will still have to look into this!

Cows do produce milk for a relatively long time (a bit more than 2 hours). After milking a cow, there is only a cooldown of ~60 seconds, so yes, you can indeed get a lot of milk (although maybe it would be indeed better to increase the cooldown)

Yes, that's a good point. I will put that on my to-do list

Not necessarily... but right now it seems that the chances for breeding are a bit too low... I will change that with the next hotfix.

Currently it's just random. This will probably change in the long run (but unfortunately I have no ETA for that yet)

Hehe The male has a "cooldown" of ~ 1 hour. The female has a "cooldown" of ~5-6 hours after giving birth

In the long run we want to enable players to tame all non-aggressive animals (including rabbits).

Goat and sheep milk is planned (and will indeed differ from cow milk), but unfortunately that didn't make it into the update yet...

Yes, milk can are also planned. We've done some preparations for that and probably they will be added with the next update

This is also in the works and will be added with one of the next updates^^

Yes, you will be able to tame them (once taming is a thing)

It is planned, but probably it will still take some time until all missing colors are added...

Unfortunately I cant say much about that yet... there had been considerations, but nothing is directly planned atm.

We could basically change that. Not sure if it's better to keep it random or not... I will think about that

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Thank you for the responses!

To clarify, does the breeding cooldown only trigger on successful breeding or every time (if fails, do we have to still wait that hour for a retry)? And does the female's cooldown start after breeding or after giving birth?

On a separate note, I didn't realize just how crazy cows were - 60 milk buckets an hour lol XD I thought it would be more like 1-2 buckets a default day so I would need a herd for tons of milk. Guess I just need dear ol' Bessie. I'll probably swap to goats /sheep for milk balance if they produce less once they are milkable, so I can have a herd feel "useful".

Thanks again!

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Thank you for the responses!

To clarify, does the breeding cooldown only trigger on successful breeding or every time (if fails, do we have to still wait that hour for a retry)? And does the female's cooldown start after breeding or after giving birth?

On a separate note, I didn't realize just how crazy cows were - 60 milk buckets an hour lol XD I thought it would be more like 1-2 buckets a default day so I would need a herd for tons of milk. Guess I just need dear ol' Bessie. I'll probably swap to goats /sheep for milk balance if they produce less once they are milkable, so I can have a herd feel "useful".

Thanks again!

I'd rather it be changed so they produce way less.

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Hmm... hard to tell what's causing this... I'm looking into this issue! But if it happens, you could try to enter refreshitems to see if the missing item shows up then

I tested it quickly (on Medieval Realms), since I know how to reproduce it. Unfortunately, that don't change anything.

In detail:

- I place a new wood log next to an older one. Everything is fine; I see both logs.

- I restart the game, connect, and I only see the older one.

- I type "refreshitems", the older log disappears and quickly reappears, but the new one remains invisible. The message "Received 15747 items from server" is displayed.

- I stop there, but if I wait long enough, the new log will reappears.

Edit: The number I gave is indeed the one I received. Perhaps there's something to investigate here?